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jjmoney62	Post subject: ....IF you know what we mean .... Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 11:54 am
Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 3135 Location: Albuquerque, N.M. USA	From the NYT Sunday magazine:<p>McCarver also makes it clear that baseball is not his life. Most of his close friends have nothing to do with the game. When I visited him he had just returned from a trip to Argentina with two male friends and was still looking for a spot to hang a photo of two tango dancers he'd brought back from Boca, the Buenos Aires barrio where the dance was invented. As I arrived, Carl Steger, a local jazz pianist, was just leaving, and after I left, McCarver would be heading to a wine tasting.
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Phillip Blanchard	Post subject: Re: ....IF you know what we mean .... Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 1:28 pm
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2002 1:01 am Posts: 8342 Location: Bethesda, Md.	Who wrote that, Bob Kurson?
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jjmoney62	Post subject: Re: ....IF you know what we mean .... Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2002 1:56 pm
Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 3135 Location: Albuquerque, N.M. USA	The author is Peter de Jonge http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/21/magazine/21SPORTSCASTERS.html It's otherwise a pretty interesting story that unfortunately falls apart in the unbelievable final chapter.<p>[ July 24, 2002: Message edited by: jjmoney62 ]</p>
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Finn DeSiecle	Post subject: Re: ....IF you know what we mean .... Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2002 3:14 pm
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2002 12:01 am Posts: 76 Location: NJ	How'd he get the two tango dancers through Customs?
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